Your Thoughts - The Amero

[The Ominous]

What are your thoughts on this.
A day when the U.S.A, Canada and Mexico all fall under one government.

A day when "The American Dollar" no longer exists and we all use one common currency, The Amero.

What has been happening is talk of a centralized government for all 3 nations. The U.N seems to believe that we would all fair better under one order but what are the possible adverse affects of such a government system falling in to place?

We could be looking at a system that ends certain freedoms, worst case scenario the possibility of communism seeping in to modern American society.

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[Kingpin]

WOWOWOWOWOWWOWOWOW watch what you say, Ominous. Neither Canada nor Mexico are under communist leadership, so how would a unified nation adopt a communist society?

As a Canadian, but also a U.S. resident for the past 4 years, and most likely soon to be dual-citizen, I can honestly say that the country that would benefit most from this would be the United States. With the way its economy is, as well as the way the world views it, it has a lot to gain by seeking international harmony.

I view this amero idea as nothing more than an attempt at escaping a falling economy. Canada's economy is doing better than ever right now, so the last thing we'd want is to suddenly adopt a multi-billion dollar national debt.

Mexico would probably benefit from this obviously, since they'd be able to freely go wherever they'd like to work and equal pay would be mandatory to them, as citizens of this unified nation.

Personally, I don't think many nations would want to be unified with the United States, and after being here for 4 years I don't blame them. And I don't mean that with any offense, the United States still has a lot to offer, but it has the largest national debt, a dog-eat-dog social mentality as well as a "numero uno" mentality (ie - everybody doing what they can to benefit themselves), no universal health care system, and as previously mentioned, a failing economy.

Don't get me wrong, I think America has its perks, and when Canadians are under attack, who do you think we'll be looking to for military assistance in defense?

The fact of the matter is that the U.S.A. loses out on too many factors to make unifying itself with Canada to be worth it for the Canadian people.

But if the next president manages to fix the economy, implement a universal health care system, and try to promote and overall friendlier, externally-based society, then I think merging countries could be a great idea. Plus we could use some Mexicans up in Canada, our lawns are terrible :tease: I kid I kid!!! :laugh:

[The Ominous]

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WOWOWOWOWOWWOWOWOW watch what you say, Ominous. Neither Canada nor Mexico are under communist leadership, so how would a unified nation adopt a communist society?
I apologize if my wording led you to believe that I was speaking of communism being adopted in to American society as a result of unification.

What I was getting at is the fact that an "alliance" could lead to such ideologies eventually becoming a part of American society. My use of the term "American Society" exists only because I reside here, however this is universal. How would a Canadian feel about these ideas? Mexico and on a more diminutive standing, America could prosper from such actions being taken but are we prepared to deal with the adverse affects? Communism being one.
These ideas would come from the purveyors of The Amero, not one of the 3 involved societies.

I can fully comprehend why a nation like Canada would want nothing to do with "The Amero", reasons which you have so eloquently pointed out.

I too at one time considered Canadian citizenship, not because 70% of my living family resides there but for many more obvious reasons.

Neutral standing, cleaner air and streets, Family orientation, Medical system and a never ending list of opportunities.

[Kingpin]

Ah okay, I apologize for the misunderstanding. :smile1:

Yeah, there would definitely be pros and cons to such a unification, and as you pointed out, all parties would have to be content with taking the bad with the good. We'll see though. In the past I had always rooted for Canada joining the United States, but with the way things have been going in the past 5 years or so, it's really made me reconsider my stand. I mean don't get me wrong - as I said, I love many things about America, so I'm not a hater or anything.

I'd certainly encourage your idea of becoming a Canadian citizen. Well I guess it would be dual citizenship technically, but yeah. As soon as you gain citizenship, you go to a health centre, and apply for a health card (named differently from province to province, but ultimately the same thing), and then whenever you go to a hospital, or doctor's office, you just show em your card and that's basically it, unless there are forms and waivers, to sign.

The air is certainly cleaner as a whole. I mean there are some parts of America that exceed the air quality of the big cities in CAnada, but hey...one of our biggest cities - Calgary - is rated the #1 cleanest city on the planet. Don't believe me? See for yourself here: http://www.forbes.com/2007/04/16/worlds-cleanest-cities-biz-logistics-cx_rm_0416cleanest_slide_2.html (http://anonym.to?http://www.forbes.com/2007/04/16/worlds-cleanest-cities-biz-logistics-cx_rm_0416cleanest_slide_2.html)

There's no doubt that business is booming. Especially in Ontario, where former premier Mike Harris instituted a fantastic strategy to get businesses started, and we've been flourishing ever since. People without college educations can get $20 an hour for security jobs, no lie.

Anyway, I don't want to toot Canada's horn here, so I'll cut off here, but I'll restate as I said earlier that if the United States can get its act together under whoever comes into charge, I'd definitely vote in favor for some sort of unification, depending on the variables. We all talk about a "one word" ideology...could this be the beginning of the 1,000 years of peace?:smile1:

[The Ominous]

When American resources no longer fulfill my needs, onwards to Canada.
I shall enjoy raping it's land of it's O' so precious resources.

Glad to have cleared up that misunderstanding and I agree with all points made on your part.
America has more to gain than lose with any alliance, ever since Bush has been in office things have taken a turn for the worse.

Right now I believe that it would not be far from fact to say that we are one of the most detested and ridiculed nations worldwide. Our world stance has declined rapidly and our history of being the financial capital of the world is becoming just that, history.

[The Ominous]

There is only one member with thoughts on this possibly life altering topic?

Hmmm, some how I though that this would have sparked greater interest.

Seemingly I was wrong, next thread topic....

[ApollosWorld]

FUCK!

This is really going to cause inflation in the Mexican prostitution industry!

[Apparition]

Personally, I don't think many nations would want to be unified with the United States
I agree with you Kingpin. I personally don't believe that this alliance will workout for the better. Remember NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement) and how it failed? Promises were made but they were broken.

[60fps]

It seems I have some reading to do. I really would like to see how far along this is.

As everyone has said, it looks bad for Canada, good for Mexico and could go either way for the U.S. Hell, it could possibly divide us more or possibly unite us with the rest of the world.

How will this all be handled?

[MorpheusX]

I didn't listen or read any of that. No need to. Anything like that would have to be put to a vote. The American public and ESPECIALLY the Candian public would never go for it. Hell, Quebec wanted to secede from Canada!

The moment someone would even begin to mention that, you'd see another presidential assassination. (And it's high fucking time it happened..)

[The Ominous]

Are you saying that you not only condone but would go as far as to promote a presidential assassination, Morph?